كسي اطلاعات دقيقي در مورد شفق 3 داره ؟
تا اونجايي كه من شنيدم بالهاي اين هواپيما مثل F-14 متغيره و دريا پايه هستش .
شفق 3
مدیران انجمن: شوراي نظارت, مديران هوافضا
جداً چنین چیزی هست؟ عجب اسم جالبی.!
مرغ عاشورا !! جداً چنین چیزی هست؟ عجب اسم جالبی.!
حتماً باید یک اسمی انتخاب کنند که یک معنی داشته باشه ! ! خوب از حروف اینگلیسی هم استفاده نکنند و اینجوری هم نباشه دیگه! مثلاً اینجوری ف-14 یا ف-5 !
من خودم هم برای اولین بار این اسم را در انجمن هوا فضا در تابیک جنگده چینی خواندم و در اینترنت که سرچ کردم این مطلب را بیدا کردم البته زبان من در آن حد نیست که بتوانم ابن مطلب را به طور دقیق ترجمه کنم
One such project that keep many Iranian engineers excited and funders supportive is a project from 1999/2000 called the Morgh Ashura. This is an aircraft that "RESEMBLES PARTS OF THE AIRCRAFTS YF22-SU27SK-Chineese Stealth Fighter". PLEASE read my statement very carefully so that you don't exhust yourselves in fancy assumptions. I said it 'RESEMBLES", mainly in looks. I could be referring to air intake of one, wing design of the other, or such PARTial comparisons to give an overall impressive of the aircraft. This aircraft has some very advance features (I would call it 5th Generation), and some parts that are 4th generation, and some parts that are very old and engineers are working on all of these parts to bring to the most current level of technology and to integrate all these cohesively and intelligently.
In particular, the 3-linear directional thrust is quite interesting and it was something that German engineers perfected in mid 1980's when they were considering such technology for their version of the Eurofighter 2000. The other technology that I believe is quite interesting is the computer integration, although this is not 5th generation, it is indeed advance enough (at least in my opinion) to cause concern for adversaries. Also, Iran's knowledge and experience in stealth (and believe it or not Iran does have quite a bit of knowledge and experience in this from the days of fooling Americans into thinking that Mig-25 was a threat) and this has been used quite extensively (surprisingly) in the design aspects of this project. This aircraft will have many composite materials incorporated in its design, it will be somewhat stealthy, will have BVR capability, and it is aimed that it will also have very excellent maitenance ratios. All of this is yet to be proven, so don't jump up and down your chair. It is a process of trial and error and a balance between US threats vs. perseverance of Iran's engineers/designers/funders and people.
Before you start getting into emotional reactions ("No Iran can't do it", "Yes Iran has built an aircraft the level of F/A22, F35", etc), please consider that Iran's aircraft (although it is actually 3 different modular designs) has only reached the basic level of prototype AT DESIGN STAGE, i.e. there is no one single actual-size aircraft yet. Only 3 smaller size (70ish%) prototypes exist, and a dozen even smaller (very small) Unmanned versions are used for testing, design improvements, etc.
This aircraft is quite an impressive endeavor by one of the Iranian 'character's and although Iran would need at least 5 more years to bring this into production of an actual size prototype, it is Iran's attempt to jump a few generations into the 4th and 4.5 generation aircraft development. In the next 10 years Iran will become a SWEDEN level aircraft designer and builder, although with more self-sufficiency than that of Sweden (Sweden purchases many of its parts from GE, Rolls Royce, etc.).
Iran also has many other projects that it is working on. As recently as 2003, it (politicians) has started to organize and 'respect' the military industry of Iran. More and more funding is being devoted to this and the industry is given more autonomy and more resources and priority. It is assumed that Iran needs a two pronged approach for self defence. This part (conventional airforce, army, and navy) had previously not received much priority - other than for maintenance and support. Now R+D is given a very high priority in the recent years.
Please read the above statements very carefully before you knock yourselves out with assumptions, exagerations and/or rebuttals.
Finally, I decided to make this post because I read all the postings in this thread. And tragically, I think people like to argue about things that simply only jackasses would argue about. Most of the accusations and simplifications can be addressed with a tiny little bit of research or a visit to a local library or a local bookstore, or just reading in the more correct and knowledgeable websites with professionals who know about these things and have been involved in Iran's aviation for 35+ years.
Regretably I am making this outburst to encourage you all to search within yourselves to bring out the very highest levels of intelect that I believe you all possess and you can also hold yourselves at the highest levels and encourage each other to be holden to the highest levels of knowledge, intelect, and correct analysation of facts and figures rather than emotion and frustration. Iranians are indeed some of the smartest people on earth. With a very small minority in both US and Europe, Iranians are one of the richest and most educated minorities. In Iran, the engineers have done so much with so little. So isn't about time that you all respect one another, work with each other, come together, accept each other over others (outsiders), and work to have your own mark on history? Isn't time that the only ancient superpower in history that grew by cooperation and collaboration with its neighbors (instead of concurring) now brings the same cooperation and collaboration to its own citizens for the welfare of its people and the future of its nation? Should Iranians continue to bicker and squabble over scraps while the superpowers divide and concur Iran and Iranians and their wealth? Do you wish to continue the outright rape of your natural resources - yes i mean continue ... the British raped Iran's resources for 68 years which paid for their kids free national health service and free college education and now Europe and Russia are selling the things Iran needs (in the Oil and Gas industry) six times the going price on the open market while buying Iranian oil (by Shell recently) 10$-15$ below price?
What would happen if 300,000 highly educated (many professors) in US and Europe went back to Iran, and the wealthy Iranians with assets close to 850$ Billion also returned to Iran?
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